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Interviews with Leuren Moret and Alfred Webre on International 9/11 Citizen’s War Crimes Tribunal

Cathy Garger, Axis of Logic

June 24, 2007

Wealth is never created by destroying things. This is extreme capitalism killing itself."

~ Leuren Moret, June 20, 2007



An unprecedented event is scheduled to take place Sunday, June 24, 2007 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, at the Vancouver 9/11 Truth Conference. At this 9/11 Conference, Independent Scientist and world-renowned Uranium Weapons radiation expert, Leuren Moret, and International Lawyer Alfred Webre, J.D., M.Ed., will be calling publicly for the establishment of an International Citizen’s 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal.


The only disappointing aspect about this event is that 300 Million Americans will not be around to watch - and celebrate - this historical announcement, as it will be taking place in Canada. One certainly hopes that somebody remembers to bring a video camera.


Almost six years have passed since the horrific crimes which have permanently etched graphic, disturbing images into the world’s collective memory. September 11, 2001 was a day filled with tragedies of incalculable devastation and loss in which countless homes, lives, and dreams were obliterated in not much more than the blink of an eye.


But this is not just an American deal. Sure, the lives of 3,000 Americans and those who loved them were shattered that day; but for millions of Middle Easterners daily existence has been forever contaminated with the lingering, cumulative effects of radioactive, infinitesimal, invisible Uranium aerosols of war that the self-proclaimed deliverers of "democracy"-American-style, continue to spew, forever poisoning the air, water, soil and food supply.


In addition to the massive Uranium poisoning effectively conducted with the occupying military’s weapons of war, the events of September 11 forever obliterated any sense of "normal" life, as we in the United States used to know it, beginning the very moment the massive heinous killing spree was first reported.


One could say that America has become the land of the walking zombie – with citizens controlled by fear and a rapidly growing, alarming cognizance that our government, once looked upon as a benign entity that functioned as caretaker, dedicated to looking after its populace’s needs, health, and pursuit of happiness, is nothing more than a brutal police state heavily entrenched in fascist ideology; it is seen to be hiding behind a cross and a flag while single-mindedly hell-bent on imperialistic crusades in search of ever more resources, power, and control – but only for those who pull the strings, naturally … and their wealthy friends.


When I first heard about the upcoming announcement of the International Citizen’s 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal, I realized that if Leuren Moret, arguably the nation’s most ardent, knowledgeable, and passionate anti-Uranium weapons voice was involved, that this must be the "real thing". I was also familiar with Alfred Webre, J.D., M.Ed., who had, to his tremendous credit, initiated The September 11 Treason Independent Prosecutor Act.


Still, I admit to being more than a bit curious to discover the driving force behind the pursuit of justice for the False Flag war crimes of 9/11, when the entire US government had long ago washed its hands of the matter. In short, while my heart pounded wildly at the words "International Citizen’s 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal", I could not help but think, as righteous as this effort might sound: would it – could it – possibly, really, actually work?


To find out what was driving this action, I first approached Leuren Moret. She has earned a M.A. degree with completed coursework for a Ph.D., and is an independent geo-scientist and environmental commissioner for the City of Berkeley, California. She has provided expert testimony on numerous occasions, including the Tokyo International Tribunal for War Crimes in Afghanistan, the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Conference, the World Depleted Uranium Weapons Conference in Hamburg, Germany, and a Public Hearing for the ICTA in Manila, Philippines. Moret also serves on the organizing committees of the World Committee on Radiation Risk and International Criminal Tribunal for Iraq and has written volumes on the topic of Uranium weapons of war.


I asked Moret what made her want to become involved with calling for a Citizen’s 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal. She replied, "I don't think there is any choice. Someone has to stop it, and hold the perpetrators accountable."


I should have figured that this would be her reply, as Moret had previously written about tracking radiation from Depleted Uranium at the Pentagon. It was obvious that she did not believe the pre-packaged caveman story either.


Wondering what outcome did she think - or hope - this might have, Moret replied encouragingly: "People are beginning to act, and to think, and to get in touch with their anger. That becomes the power to fight back and to feel empowered. If we are able to reach our spiritual energy and our real potential, the perpetrators will soon be chased down the street, caught, and hanging from the gallows."


In complete candor, the visual that phrase conjured up was one I had never before so graphically contemplated. Admittedly, as loathe as one might be to admit out loud to such gruesome thinking, the image of the war-making civilian-killers from Washington, in their designer suits and star-emblazoned, military-green uniforms, lifelessly dangling from the tallest old oak trees inside Lafayette Park, holds a certain fascinating - while undoubtedly macabre – appeal.


Well, if you stop to think about it for a moment, what punishment, would be just, proper, and fitting for such beasts-in-human-form-only who have, quite literally, knowingly, and radioactively contaminated not "only" several nations, but an entire planet for all eternity?


Moret continued, "It's a process. Getting people into the process is the most important step. After that, it takes on its own path and dynamic and we just need to be there engaged in the process. I know. That's how it happened to me ... Suddenly you look around and say, 'How did I get here?’, and realize you are doing the most important work you have ever done ... and you feel nothing but the incredible lightness of being. And you realize that all these other light beings are swarming around you helping ... and that is exactly what is happening. It is not hierarchical or structured, it is more like insects swarming ... a global diffuse and very powerful movement that cannot be attacked or defeated."


Further elaborating with the sense of an individual who had given intense contemplation on her purpose in this mission, Moret explained, "It's beautiful, it's effortless, and it's done with the greatest sense of joy and love in the world... and we are all working side by side.


There is nothing to fear but fear itself. Toss it away, dismiss it, give it no thought or power. Just start doing..."


After these words, I was both inspired and encouraged. Moret’s heart was clearly into this - but deeply - and knowing her personal history as that of a determined, courageous, and dedicated humanitarian activist, my hopes and optimism for the International Citizen’s 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal only continued to rise.


Hoping to get more legal background on what grounds such a tribunal would be based, I spoke next with Alfred Webre. An international attorney and dual citizen of the United States and Canada, Alfred Webre, J.D., M.Ed., is a member of the Bar in the District of Columbia in Washington, DC. Weber was born at a US Naval base during World War II in Pensecola, Florida, and has "multiple connections" in both Canada and the US.


No stranger to exposing crime, Webre shared, "Since 1975, I worked closely with Congressman Henry B. Gonzalez, the Chairman of the House Banking Committee in the US House of Representatives, who established the House Select Committee on Assassinations to investigate the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Robert F. Kennedy and Malcolm X … He invited me down to Washington and in 1975 we agreed to start a congressional investigation. And several months later, because of our joint efforts, it was started. So I’ve been in this business a long time and many of the same principals who were involved in the assassination on John F. Kennedy as a False Flag Operation were involved in the planning and execution of the 9/11 False Flag Operation."


With experience in seeking legal justice for international war crimes as well, Webre had been named as a Judge for the War Crimes Tribunal for the Kuala Lumpur Peace Conference in Malaysia. I next asked what had gotten them initially thinking about establishing a Tribunal for the War Crimes of September 11?


Webre began by explaining that in the United States, people have been groping for a solution and for accountability since shortly after 9/11 first occurred. He stressed that the 9/11 Commission, established by the Executive Branch of government, was, in fact, void of any accountability and responsibility under the law.


In addition, Webre added that "Two of the principle suspects, President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney, had been questioned, not under oath … in a room in which no one could take notes, and a number of the principle members of the Commission were absent … The entire political class just absented itself. It seemed that there was a total failure of any sort of leadership. And the frauds, the outright fraud of the 9/11 Commission has been documented in a number of books and articles.


At the same time," continued Webre, "there was a very powerful movement for impeachment. Now, impeachment is a political solution under the Constitution, meaning that although there’s a Bill of Impeachment brought in the house under Article 2 of the Constitution and then a trial in the Senate, these are primarily political issues, because it depends on the votes in the House … and the votes in the Senate. And so, therefore, it deals with, what are really issues of criminal responsibility and mens rea - intent to commit a crime - and criminal investigation in a political atmosphere. So, it’s an inappropriate remedy.


"So, the correct remedy for the False Flag Operation of 9/11 seemed to us to be tailor-made under Article 3 of the United States Constitution, which provides that treason against these United States shall consist solely of an attack against these United States or giving aid and comfort to its enemies.


"By the evidence, the attack against the Pentagon and against the World Trade Center would consist of an armed attack against the United States. So it would fall squarely within the meaning of the statute, within the meaning of the Constitution, and that the Independent Prosecutor, ironically, was on September 11, 1998 … that Kenneth Starr reported out to the Judicial Committee of the House of Representatives of the United States Congress a memorandum that would lead to a Bill of Impeachment in the House against Bill Clinton. So the Independent Prosecutor that would be able to convene a grand jury and start a criminal investigation with investigators would be the appropriate way to proceed.


"About eighteen months ago we started on this journey", Webre continued. "One of the principles in law is that you exhaust all of your remedies. We had exhausted remedies with the Executive [branch] in the sense that the 9/11 Commission convened by the Executive [branch] was a total fraud - and that’s been demonstrated a fraud in which all of the Commissioners knowingly participated. It’s something of historic proportions. It’s like the Warren Commission … It’s a statement of a corrupt regime … There’s nothing left there. It’s a corrupted regime.


"We exhausted remedies with the Executive [branch] and so then we said, 'Let’s go to the United States Congress.’ We drafted the September 11 Independent Prosecutor Act and began moving that forward into the body politic. And following the Democratic victory on Nov 7, 2006 in which the Democrats regained control of both Houses of Congress – both the House of Representatives and the Senate - by one vote. Then we arranged a meeting with senior staff of the incoming Chairman of the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee - that would be the committee that would have oversight over this bill, and that would have hearings on the bill, and bring it to the floor of the House for a vote.


"And we had been speaking to the counsel to that committee … We met with senior staff, she got multiple copies of the memorandum which listed George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney, and Donald H. Rumsfeld as Defendants and also … we had a second meeting ... She stated that these materials showed a very powerful interest and she was taking it over the Thanksgiving, 2006 break to meet with Representative John Conyers, who was in Detroit at the time. Representative John Conyers had the opportunity to review the Act, to review the memorandum, the Executive Summary, to review the issues with his senior staff.


"Representative John Conyers chose not to go forward. So we feel that we received a review there. And, as I understand, on September 11, 2005, the 911 Truth organization had demanded of the International Criminal Court that it review the crimes of 9/11. Of course, the International Criminal Court has chosen not to go forward.


"In fact, the International Criminal Court had, as of February, 2007, received over 240 complaints for war crimes in Iraq and has not acted on any of these. And at the administrative level [the ICC] has just totally written them off. And so, because we had then exhausted remedies at the United States government, at the Executive level with the 911 Commission, at the United States Congress with the Legislative level, with the House Judiciary Committee, and presumably with the International Criminal Court, then that brings into being the role of Citizen’s War Crimes justice Tribunal – convened under the jurisdiction of natural law …


"In this case, this War Crimes Tribunal, because I have the privilege of being a judge on the world’s permanent Citizen’s War Crimes Tribunal - which is the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, which was established in February, 2007 by the Perdana Global Peace Organization which is chaired by Tun Dr. Mahthir bin Mohamad, former Prime Minster of Malaysia. The infrastructure and statute of that court is established such that then, the Citizens 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal will come in as part of that infrastructure.


"With regard to the act of 9/11 itself, at the time I was the editor of "Ecology News" and, like everyone else, my Co-Director at the Institute for Cooperation in Space called me and said, 'Turn on the television!’ I turned on the television just as CNN was covering it. And within 15 minutes of that we were, "Ecology News", was on the Internet broadcasting the first news item which was a report, a phone call from a sailor on a US carrier, saying that that this was an inside job. So I’d known within minutes of the first strike on the first tower that there’s a report from the inside from a US sailor on a US carrier that this was an inside job because they’d picked up a cell phone call from him to a family member of his. So with that we opened up what we called the 9/11 Strategic Deception Desk."


Curious where this Tribunal might eventually lead (and to the point, would the perpetrators in positions of power one day rightfully receive their "just rewards") I asked Webre if the Tribunals were to have the outcome that he and Moret would hope for, what did he think could come out of the International Citizen’s 9/11 War Crimes Tribunals?


"This is where Citizen’s War Crimes Tribunals have a particular function. They’re convened under the jurisdiction of natural law. Natural law is the force of justice … natural law is as much a part of the natural order as is time and space, as are the laws of physics. Justice is just as present as it is in the moon or on Alpha Centauri. It’s inherent in the nature of the universe. So, wherever there is injustice in the world, people can band together to seek justice if, in fact, that is not being carried out.


"So, Citizen’s War Crimes Tribunals can come together and - provided that they are acting according to the highest stands of legal process and international law procedure - they have been recognized as an established part of international law. So, in the first instance, the Citizen’s 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal would identify, would have an investigatory phase, with a War Crimes Commission and prosecuting attorneys that would investigate the issue in which indictments would be issued. And then the matter would come to trial and then judgments would be issued.


"Now, here is where several principles of law come into effect. One is the principle of what we call restorative justice. And that is, that if you just lop off somebody’s head or put them to death or put them in a cell or in a country club prison for the rest of their life, it doesn’t really restore the damage done to the ecology and to human societies- and all of the damage done everywhere in the world because of the attacks of 9/11. It’s led to a 'War on terror’, it’s led to a reign of terror, and they continue to try to implement their plans.


"Nine-eleven, as we’ve said…. had multiple reasons for it.


"It was to provide the pretext for a genocidal and ecocidal invasion using low-level nuclear war, using Depleted Uranium against central Asia - in other words, Afghanistan and Iraq and Lebanon and other areas. It provided the pretext to impose a terror-driven national security state… in North America, Europe, Asia and all throughout the world.


"The Canadian no-fly list just went into effect on Monday, June 18, 2007 as part of the implementation of what they call the 'North American Union’ … they’re trying to implement the 9/11 National Security State in Canada now with the NSPD. The National Security Presidential Directive 51, in which George W. Bush becomes the leader of the Executive, the Legislative, and the Judicial branches of government. On the basis of a "national catastrophe", that could occur anywhere in the world, in other words, another False Flag Operation on some pretext.


"So those plans are continuing, so, clearly we have to resist them. And their principle technology is the False Flag Operation, as well. All of this has been triggered by 9/11 so that was the second function of 9/11 - to trigger this anti-constitutional regime and anti- civil liberties regime.


"And finally, it’s to trigger the final stages of a depopulation plan which has been in effect since at least 1954 - if not earlier in 1945 – and, with the development of nuclear weaponry and Depleted Uranium and Agent Orange, and that is, to depopulate the world by at least 2 billion - if not 4 billion people- and come into a two-tier system, of an appointed elite with concentrated wealth upwards and a second class tier of serfs of limited potential who do whatever manual labor is left after machines have taken over somebody’s bad dream.


"So those were the purposes of 9/11. They are purely a political land grab… a grab for power in the classical sense by the world bankers, by the David Rockefellers, by an international war crimes racketeering organization whose composition we can identify as having three major components."


I asked if the land grab has something to do with the desired acquisitions of the resources of Uranium, gas, and oil?


"Exactly. Nine-eleven was targeted at Afghanistan. All of the patsies or phony setup was to have the Taliban … that the Taliban were giving cover to Al-Qaeda so they could invade Afghanistan, which is now being shown to have vast Uranium deposits and, not only that … was a center for the opium and hence, the heroin trade.


"And oil, drugs, and arms are at the top of the agenda for the international war crimes racketeering organization, and have been since 1832… just before the dawn of the petroleum age with the founding of the Brotherhood of Death at Yale University’s Skull and Bones. These are networks that have been in operation for a good 150 years."


I asked if we need to seek justice by the proper legal means for the perpetrators – the three individuals named (i.e., Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld) and the others, the Jane & John Does … but also, to expose the entire international war racketeering "business"?


"We are approaching this as though it’s a racketeering lawsuit and that is, that you’re not only going after the front people like Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld, but you’re going back into the network of banking interests that really have a great deal to gain - that set up this entire operation and you’re assigning criminal culpability to them. Now all of that would come out in the final judgment. And you could say, What’s that?


"First of all, that operates under natural law and natural law is: there’s a force to justice. Some of the world’s great spiritual traditions or, you can call them science traditions, have another word for natural law. They call it 'karma’. So everybody in the world will know that individuals A, B, C and D did this. And that may precipitate others to act accordingly …


"The Citizen’s Tribunals then have another course of action, because as part of the 104 nations that have signed up for the International Criminal Court, when they sign the Rome Statute and became members of it, they themselves had to give universal jurisdiction laws to their national courts. And what that means is that their national courts are now empowered to prosecute war crimes wherever they occurred.


"So, the 9/11 Criminal War Crimes Tribunals can take its judgment and go to a national court in any progressive nation - be it Venezuela, be it Spain, Chile - that has a track record of pursuing war crimes and say, Look! You have this judgment. Go after these Defendants! And they can make life very uncomfortable for them. Even if George W. Bush is holed up in his in Paraguay 98,000 acre ranch… ya know, the law has a long arm and a long reach …


"We are implacable. We will not rest! We’re implacable! And you know what they say about the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, right?"


I replied that no, I did not. I asked Alfred Webre to tell me.


"We always get our man".


And if confidence, knowledge of the law, a combined 120 years of wisdom, (more or less) and an apparent limitless desire to ensure that justice is served is any indication of whether Leuren Moret and Alfred Webre will succeed in establishing the International Citizen’s 9/11 War Crimes Tribunals, one is inclined to believe that Moret and Webre will go down in history as being the team responsible for being able to "get their man".


In addition to the quiet confidence of knowing they will be able to "get their man", or rather, three men in particular, one suspects also that Moret and Weber will be known forevermore as the dynamic duo who exposed the entire clandestine black army of criminals responsible for 9/11 in this unthinkably brutal, unfathomably lawless, and unquestionably most "corrupt regime" in all world history.


Who - save the very perpetrators of these grievous crimes against humanity - could help but concur with Leuren Moret’s heartfelt sentiment regarding this endeavor? In Moret’s own words, "It's beautiful, it's effortless, and it's done with the greatest sense of joy and love in the world... and we are all working side by side."


With Moret and Webre working to ensure that justice is done with regard to the crimes of treason and mass murder committed not just in New York and Washington, DC but for the unconscionable acts of nearly six years of genocidal, ecocidal, and heinous war crimes committed called ominicide against humanity itself... what, after all, could be more beautiful than that?


In the immortal words of Thomas Jefferson, "The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only object of good government." Undoubtedly, if Jefferson were alive today, he would be working in partnership right alongside Moret and Webre.


Let the International 9/11 Citizen’s War Crimes Tribunals begin.




Click this link to hear the full interview with Alfred Webre, J.D.,M.Ed.


MEDIA ADVISORY: Independent Scientist Leuren Moret and International Lawyer Alfred Webbre to call for International Citizen’s 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal


9/11 Independent Prosecutor Act - Executive Summary 


Congressional Memorandum: Summary of Prima Facie Evidence of Treason



Cathy Garger is a freelance writer, public speaker, activist, and a certified personal coach who specializes in Uranium weapons. Living in the shadow of the national District of Crime, Cathy is constantly nauseated by the stench emanating from the nation's capital during the Washington, DC, federal work week. Cathy may be contacted at savorsuccesslady3@yahoo.com .



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